Jun
27
2007

Mannatech Strikes again with Holy Water!

Mannatechs Super Holy Water to the Rescue!Looks like Mannatech is at it again, this time, revolutionizing water!

Background

I reviewed the company Mannatech a few weeks ago for their successful attempts at circumventing laws, selling nothing but useless overpriced sugar pills and telling those taking them it will cure their cancer, aids and a host of other outrageous claims.  (Mannatech: Overpriced Sugar Pills)

Well, I guess they are on fire now, apparently, they have discovered something new, truly revolutionizing… water! I have to give them credit though, they admit they are selling nothing but sugar pills, now they are selling water, at least they got some honesty (however perverse).

Enhanced Water Technology

You got to be kidding, people actually believe this bull shit? Water, is made by two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, forming H2O. If it was H3O or HO3 then it isn’t water, it’s something else! Their new line of revolutionizing skin care product, dubbed “Optimal Skin Care System” is free of preservatives, fragrances and colorants… their marketing worked overtime on this one folks because the secret behind being able to do this is Enhanced Water Technology! WOW….

Tensa Water

I though this was a joke but apparently Mannatechs incredible water technology uses proprietary filtration and enhancement systems that creates a new form of water called Tensa Water. What is Tensa Water? Well, it’s like glyconutrients, a catch phrase that only exists in marketing departments as opposed to scientific ones. Tensa means Heavenly. So, to put this another way, Mannatechs Water Technology, the thing they spent so much R&D developing via prayer produces Heavenly Water.

Clinical Studies?

Mannatech is as synonymous to a clinical study as a boat is to an orange tree. They did a study that showed by using this incredible heavenly water called Tensa that people had increased skin moisture, smoothness and hydration… no shit… they are putting water on it! They even point to the fact that this study found out that radiance (incredibly subjective word that is scientifically useless) grew by 75% and skin moisture improved by 100%! Mannatech has to be laughing all the way to the bank on this one.

Ultra Pure Water

Well, apparently Tensa is a revolution and they have also invented Ultra Pure Water as well, with a mix of other naturally sourced ingredients such as trehalose, iris florentina root extract with isoflavone, yeast extract, amino acids, vitamins, minerals and artemia extract.

What’s Next?

Well, I am convinced that in a few months Mannatech will be selling dirt, after water and sugar, this has to be the next logical step… no? 75% of the Earth is covered by water, they got that market covered so the next 25% must come from the land itself as they have also cornered the vegetation growing on land. I think they may even be crazy enough to sell Holy Air which you add via compressed canister to all your meals to help triple it’s nutritional content. I can see the headline now “Mannatech Revolutionizes Air and Dirt with proprietary technology that infuses the Holy Spirit in every atom, leading to a total rejuvenation of mind and spirit”.

The Bottom Line

At least people buying overpriced water to put on their skin isn’t going to cause death or serious injury, unlike their sugar pill that some people take instead of sound medical knowledge. This company is a joke, ripping people off all while laughing all the way to the bank.

Mannatech sends me a Cease and Desist

References

http://news.corporate.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20070405/05apr20070507.html

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30 Comments »

  • tim says:

    this article on Tensa Water is horrible, the science behind this water is soooo legit, any scientist that not all water has the same charge or energy balance. If you were on your deathbed, would you drink tap water or Tensa water, if both were available and you wanted to recover.
    Mannatech is Legit

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    The chemical structure of pure water is H20, please provide me with the “special” chemical structure of “Tensa”? If it isn’t H20 then IT IS NOT WATER. If I was on my death bed, I would be drinking anything I can get my hands on if I was thirsty as I would be DYING ANYWAYS!

    Please read my other blog post about Mannatech, I have yet to hear a response, you guys are all being swindled and scammed in the name of religion and profits which, in my book, don’t mix very well.

    http://blog.legendarylife.com/mannatech-overpriced-sugar-pills

    I look forward to the day that companies like Mannatech are thrown out of business and the owners into jail. Please don’t insult science nor religion by mixing the two together… a common tactic of Mannatech.

    Jon

  • Kevin Schreier says:

    I have to wonder if my comment will get posted. First I have to ask Jon, what ax you have to grind with Mannatech? I am a scientist and have looked at the studies by Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine, Oxford University’s OXJournals from the College of GlycoBiology, the Fischer Research Institutes Clinical Studies, the Endowment for Medical Research and their findings on the “ninth” Plant Carbohydrate called Trehalose, and found that the 30,000 some odd articles on the “Science” are incredibly noteworthy and stand alone. If Mannatech’s Patents couldn’t stand up to scientific scrutiny, they wouldn’t have been awarded the patents and several Judges wouldn’t have upheld Mannatechs Patent Infringement claims and awarded Mannatech Treble Damages. Those companies that are trying to mimic what Mannatech has achieved says alot when imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. BTW, those companies including the Pharmaceutical companies will now have to recover all of the product they sold and return it to Mannatech for Destruction. I am not employed by Mannatech but can tell you there is a reason people like Jon are so vocal against something so good, and that is because they have a hidden agenda or cause celeb. Mannatech is the first ones to tell you to do your own due dilligence. Tensa water by the way is not the water that is important, it is the filtering that adds the extra qualities, the soluable minerals released in the process. Jon didn’t tell you the whole truth.

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    One simple question, since when does filtering of PURE H2O actually “add” anything? This makes absolutely no sense. I have no axe to grind with Mannatech, I just want them to PROVE using the scientific method of a double blind study that their stuff actually works. Since when are scientists suppose to be impressed by the lack of “science” behind a “researched” product? I am a scientist as well, and from what I have seen, heard and read on their own website, I cannot say I am impressed what-so-ever. Send me a non-biased research paper that is from a double-blind study and I would love to post it here for “scientists” and scientists to debate.

  • Kevin Schreier says:

    What do you do for a living or more succinctly whom do you work for? Why such vitriol about Mannatech? The distribution model they use is no different from the top coprorations in this country, AT&T, MCI, GM, Coca Cola, and the hundreds of franchizes… Because they sell product and make money is what most all businesses are about, so that can’t be it. They sell more than sugar pills, if you studied the history behind the development and the eight critical components and how they work. Glycosylation means life and these patented formulas put those on the cell you can’t get from the diet. Sure we can grow produce faster and healthier using “hydroponics”, but they are still green harvested because we can’t ship vine ripened anything to market to feed the masses without them spoiling. We do not get what we need from diet which is why autoimmune has gone up ten fold, that is why children are dying and getting obese…the manufacturers of your favorite snack food have chemically altered everything tricking your body into thinking it isn’t getting enough. How many bananas or peaches or apples can youe eat without your body saying I have had enough of that… Lays figured it out and even advertized I bet you can’t eat just one, because the chemically send a signal blocking the brain saying your satisfied the way your body does with natural fruit. I challenge anyone out there to disprove the claims made in the patents, BTW Mannatechs products are in the PDR the Doctors use and yes one of their products has under gone FDA scrutiny and has been validated… it too is in the PDR. The FDA btw is in the pockets of big Pharma not the industry giant, Mannatech, that has lobbied for Good Manufacturing processes, and yes is pushing the nutritional supplement industry into a remarkably higher standard than the FDA.

    In terms of the term Glyconutrition, yes it was Mannatechs, but what about Dannons. L.Casei Imunnitas, or Mountain Dew, there is no Mountain Dew in that, they are recognized trademarks and that helps set the companies and products aside from others who make claims. Again I challenge anyone to disprove the numerous patented claims made by Mannatech…because if you can you will over turn the multimillion dollar judgements made in the courts of law supporting Mannatechs claims. it is only individuals who have an ax to grind for some reason or another that really do the harm (I suspect they are proud of themselves also), instead of companies likeMannatech who do so much good. If they didn’t have it, Merck and other Pharma companies wouldn’t be trying to synthesize these nutrients and place them on the surface of their toxic drugs. There are famous Doctors like Ben Carson and numerous athletes from around the world that use and depend on these products recognizing their values. There are over 95 athletes now on team Mannatech and the NFL and others who repeatedly stand up for the regimes which include this nutrional program, and that is exactly what it is food, nothing more nothing less, just giving the body what it needs to do the job the body was designed to do by supplementing our modern diets with what the soils have lost and the market can’t deliver. Interms of claims of curing cancer, Mannatech does not make any claims of cure or mitigation, that is illegal, have some people made those claims? Yes but the company hasn’t and those that have have been warned or dropped from the program when found out because it is illegal and the ABC 20/20 show used ringers to set up the show, because every representative is trained about what not to say and what claims not to make. There are snake oil salesman out there and will say anything and promise everything to get you to buy, but that is not the company those are independent sales people. Again the challenge is out to actually prove what Mannatech claims is false… People follow the money why would someone put so much effort as this to disuade people from something so right unless there is a hidden agenda here, maybe a competing product to sell or an allegience to another company perhaps? I have spent over 5 years following this and I have yet to see anything false about the claims, knowing the big drug companies don’t ;like it and they have enough lobby in D.C to place 5 people at every door in congress. They are fighting it in every way they can but even they are not succeeding. The challenge is there and the diligence is yours.

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    You have a very well thought-out argument, my problem with Mannatech is in the way they promise what they cannot deliver and use the guise of religion to not only promote their product but slowly dissolve away the very big difference that exists between “science” and “belief”. There is no hidden agenda on my part – prove to me your stuff works and I would love to use it… but don’t use studies that you funded yourself and use the scientific method of a double blind study! I have yet to see this and considering the resources at their disposal, the fact that they haven’t done such a thing yet to me shows a hidden agenda that has no more to do with science than with religion.

    Jon
    ps: Mountain Dew doesn’t promise to cure Cancer, HIV or other serious ailments which is something “promised” through “testimonials” by too many Mannatech Reps. I have yet to see a statement directly saying that not only are these not true but consumption of Mannatech products has no effect on the progression of any type of condition/disease AT ALL… something which, to my knowledge, they have never done.

  • Kevin Schreier says:

    Thank you for your thoughtful responses Jon. I appreciate the effort. I do not believe though they use religion to sell products or promote the cures and yes they do refute the false claims made by associates, they just haven’t take out ads in the newspapers to make such statements. Those that use and support the products know the facts and those that violate them are quickly reprimanded and dropped from being able to sell the product or promote them. In terms of testimonials, the company was the first to tell me that you can stack a thousand testimonials on top of each other, that doesn’t make good science, good science does. In terms of funding their own research, yes everyone especially the big pharma pushing toxic cover up drugs in stead of promoting wellness do their own studies and funding and dupe others into believing they are safe even though they have the “double blind” studies, it is the FDA that is blind and they hope to blind the public… that is where the doubling comes in. Mannatech doesn’t offer special gimmics to Doctors for promoting something toxic like drug companies do. The fact that the products are in the PDR but the DOctors don’t promote them is there are no perks for them like from the drug companies.

    I was the biggest skeptic of all when it comes to natural products or snake oil, but I tried to discourage my wife and everyone else in my family from trying the product and not buy into the hype. That said, I know that my wife who was diagnosed with Primary Biiliary Cirrohsis and a candidate for a liver transplant has not been on any drugs now since 2003 and her liver function tests are all in normal range again. Not because of a placebo effect but because she tried the product and let it stand on its own… remarkable results. DId the product do it? I believe her body did it because it was fed properly.

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    Hello Kevin, I have a few issues with your statement:

    1) Mannatech uses religion to sell its products, they distribute through churches and are well known as a Christian company. They do NOT use science to back-up their product, they use belief which is what religion is. As such, I cannot agree with you on this statement. Now, maybe they have changed their way since I wrote this article, I hope they have changed their ways since… but so far, I haven’t seen any indication of this.

    2) The reason that doctors don’t promote Mannatech products is BECAUSE there is NO INDEPENDENT PROOF (this is why a double blind study is for) that it actually does anything beyond a placebo effect. Big pharma, sure, some of their stuff is toxic but at least this is an indication of potency – if something has NO side-effects what-so-ever, then saying it “works” is highly subjective. If you had cancer, which would you take? A Mannatech product with thousands of testimonials saying “it works” or documented proof of cancer recession from active biopsies over several years? Don’t minimize the placebo effect either, we know next to nothing about the brain and its relationship with our bodies… it plays a huge role in the success of pharmaceuticals as well.

    3) I appreciate your testimonial but how would you feel if a double blind study came out that showed the effect of Mannatech products where equivalent to a multi-vitamin? I am not trying to minimize the results you have had, but I have to question how much (if any) role Mannatech has had with your condition. If it works for you… great! But I wouldn’t substitute their products for sound medical expertise.

    Thanks again for your comment Kevin,
    Jon

  • Pennie Pearce says:

    Hi Jon,
    Have been reading your chat about Mannatech and it’s products…It’s amazing how people get anger and scared when a disruptive technology hits the scene. Don’t know where you guys live in the world, but I’m from the UK… Oxford University has a department of Glycobiology which has been active for the past 20 years and they acknowledge that Mannatech has lead the way with producing nutritional supplements which quite literally knock the socks off anything anyone else has produced. Having been in the medical field myself for over 30 years and now advising patients to investigate glyconutrients and letting them know of Mannatech products… I too can say the results I have seen are outstanding. I know that at various centres in the UK double blind trails are running and will let you know the results and data as it becomes available. You know when antibotics first hit the scene no-one in the medical field thought that they would work… and it took doctors over 20 years to get them into general practice… which was a pity because they could have been saving lives… maybe us in the medical field do need more faith.

    • Jon says:

      I know to you this will be seen as a compliment but your muddling of what science is makes me think of what creationists do in order to disprove evolution to prove their hypothesis whose only grain of truth is that “faith” is required to put the pieces together. Water, H2O, is water… no amount of praying to any kind of God will change this. Please provide me with the exact chemical structure of pure waste followed by that of revolutionary “Holy Water”. I am willing to bet that they are identical, otherwise, it isn’t water.

      Glycobiology is an interesting idea that so far doesn’t have an ounce of science behind it beyond biased reports and conjecture – just because they set-up a department in Oxford doesn’t mean it’s any more valid. They have more money than common sense, which is why they haven’t been accepted by anybody in the scientific field beyond “faith based testimonials”. I am not mad or angry regarding Mannatech, they are allowed to screw anybody they want, but their use of highly misinformed science in order to push their product on religious people is doing nobody any favors that than their bottom line.

      I would like to know who gave you information regarding antibiotics not being accepted by medical science for two decades as they have been use for over 2 500 years. So, yet another comment saying how great a scam is without an ounce of proof in any way to support your statement… the Mannatech marketing machine never stops does it.

      I hope you are able to answer on Steve’s behalf here
      http://blog.legendarylife.com/mannatech-overpriced-sugar-pills

      As he, so far, is completely unable to reply to my questions regarding Mannatech’s sugar pill – feel free to send this to their marketing department as this level of logic seems beyond his faith based level of reasoning.

      Jon

  • Vince says:

    If you want to read a reader’s feedback :) , I rate this post for four from five. Detailed info, but I have to go to that damn yahoo to find the missed pieces. Thank you, anyway!

  • Ben says:

    It’s extremely frustrating to see this sort of marketing, i thought for a second that tim was being sarcastic but seeing how this comments section has been flooded made me realise that sadly, somebody wants the mannatech products mentioned here to appear legitimate. Luckily the internet allows people to lie anonymously; something I might do for fun, but something “Kevin”, “Penny” and “Tim” will do to chase after money by facilitating inferior healthcare. You’re just as bad as big pharma, jerks.

  • Master Rocker 2009 says:

    Multi-level marketing schemes such as Mannatech are for losers. I could think of much more fun cults to join! lol

    • Jon says:

      I don’t think they are losers, they just want something better in life (ei: income or feeling of helping) and Mannatech promises people through its marketing that they are the answer. The fact that most Mannatech distributors don’t amount to much reselling overpriced sugar pills just shows how much of a failure this company is in following through with their promises.

      Jon

  • Judanne says:

    O.K. I am a real person (www.myspace.com/tamaresque) and I have some chronic health problems; one of the Mannatech products, Ambrotose, relieved me of the symptoms of the majority of my symptoms over a period of 2 years. I’ve now been using the products for over a decade. I am blood tested every 3 months for my ongoing health problems and I don’t take any product that doesn’t improve my blood tests over a period of time. I, my doctors and my specialists, have all seen improvements in my quality of life, a reduction in symptoms and an associated reduction in medications prescribed to combat those symptoms.

    I have to make further comment on the fact that you keep saying that Mannatech says it can ‘cure’ disease. You will find that the company is VERY careful NOT to state a cure for anything. That is illegal in the USA and many other countries (including mine, Australia) but unlike the US, in Australia Mannatech is legally permitted to say what their products are effective for.

    Mannatech goes to great pains to let their distributors know that they cannot claim to cure anything, that’s why I talk about an ‘alleviation of symptoms’. For me those symptoms included peripheral neuropathy in hands and feet, asthma, bronchitis, colds, flu, arthritis, headaches and irritable bowel syndrome. I also noted a reduction in blood pressure and cholesterol levels leading to a reduction in medications that I was taking at the time. This didn’t happen immediately, but things started to improve within 3 months and as time went on, continued to improve. Of course, not all my medical symptoms disappeared completely, but enough did to radically improve my quality of life while living with chronic kidney failure.

    In case you think I’m a Mannatech distributor – I’m not. I am a regular customer though and would not be without it. And as to your conviction that it is promoted ‘as a religion’ – sorry, but I’m an atheist and have absolutely nothing to do with superstition. Their products have been well and truly proven over and over again and patents issued in a number of countries.

    Open your mind and you just may improve your quality of life, too.

    • Jon says:

      Thanks for your comment Judanne, I am happy Judanne that you have found something that helps ease your symptoms but there is a lot that science doesn’t know about medication, including the very powerful placebo effect. Whatever works for you is fine but there is NO DIFFERENCE between the sugar in their overpriced pills and that found in gum, sugar is sugar no matter what product contains it.

      They have patents on the blends they use, it doesn’t NOT indicate that their stuff works, it just means they have a proprietary blend (ie: meaningless). Only double-blind clinical tests which, to the best of my knowledge, Mannatech has avoided like the plague could prove once and for all if their products work – from what I have read and studied though, they are not doing this because it would be the end of their business if the results ever became public.

      I must disagree with you though, none of Mannatech’s products have ever been well and truly proven. EVER. Your testimonial is just that, a testimonial, not an indication regarding effectiveness. This is a tactic used by many supplement sellers around the world, not just Mannatech and I sincerely wished this practice was stopped unless backed-up with real science with non-biased, independent, double-blind clinical study.

      Jon
      ps: I have been forwarded a copy of e-mails sent from the very Mannatech lawyers who say their stuff doesn’t cure anything telling personal stories that Mannatech helped “cure” various diseases, so no, they haven’t learned, I just haven’t released this yet.

  • Rosalyn says:

    I really don’t understand all this talk about chemical properties vs all these other debates on religious matters. Everyone has something good and bad to say on everything, I believe that it is what the idividual believes in, what a person believes makes it happen for their self. Nobody is wrong here, everyone is right, why? It is what they believe. :)

    • Jon says:

      The more we know… the less we know. Belief is one thing, fact (as we know it) is quite another, the mixing of the two is when things go bad.

      Jon

  • Gordon Frank says:

    I have the feeling the writer of this article is a skeptic who has nothing better to do than puke on a quality product.

    • Jon says:

      If you enjoy paying through the nose for a product that is no different than regular tap water, by all means… continue getting swindled! Thanks for your comment.

      Jon

  • GDW says:

    I’ve never heard of this water… And I’m a mannatech associate.
    Is it really for sale in the US?

  • GDW says:

    Just for interest’s sake. Water can be changed to perform different functions in your body. By changing the way that molecules present themselves. I’m not saying Mannatech’s water is good or different (I know nothing of it), but water does come in different molecular forms.
    If you don’t know anything about water other than H2O, then I suggest you be careful about what you say. This goes for everyone. I don’t know much about anything in life if you consider all there is to know. The more you get to know about something, the more you realize that you don’t know much and how much there is to learn.

    • Jon says:

      Huh? Water comes in one molecular form, H2O. Yes, there is a lot we don’t know about life and our existence but one thing is for sure, water does not mutate into other forms unless it’s used for other chemical interactions, in which case… it isn’t water anymore and forms a completely different substance. For instance, H (Hydrogen) and O (Oxygen) are not a “molecular version” of water… they are chemical elements with their own independent physical properties.

      Jon

  • GDW says:

    Water molecules are bunched up (glued together) by the thousands when we drink normal rain or tap water. In your body’s plasma water molecules are bunched up in smaller numbers. So by breaking down these molecules before drinking the water, your body can use the water quicker and rehydrate itself much faster… It can also carry more oxygen to your body through helping your red blood cells to move more freely. I’ve seen it under a microscope myself. But many people know nothing of this or anything else of water other than you can drink it and it must be clean! Yet in their eyes they are professionals when it comes to most things, including water.

    • Jon says:

      Oxygen binds to Iron in your blood, hence why it’s red… this is NOTHING to do with water. I have never heard of the term “body’s plasma water molecules” either while I studied biology in University… nor have I heard of water forming a mesh when put together which, if you think about it, makes no sense at all so I’m going to say this is BS Mannatech science whose only reality exists within their walls.

      If you want to be hydrated “faster”, the only way I’m aware of doing so is by having electrolytes in it to help replenish the ones lost during sweating with some sugar and salt but this is more to keep your body in balance, thus not getting a headache while continuing strenuous activity.

      Jon

  • GDW says:

    Someone who truly knowns a lot, will realize how insignificant he is in this world and will rather listen than speak, so that he can learn more. Think about it, do you really think you even know 10% of everything there is to know… From glycoforms to water to vitamins. Science hardly knowns 10%!!! Truth is, the average person knows less than .0001%! And then they want to argue about stuff! How stupid is that! I know I don’t know enough to argue. At least Mannatech has a 100% money back guarantee! SO I don’t need to know all there is. If I or anyone I introduce Mannatech to, does not like what they experience with Mannatech, then they get their money back! If all companies had the same guarantee, we would not need to argue about crap like this. We could try them all… Why not try and expose companies that take people’s money and don’t even give the option of giving it back!

    • Jon says:

      Glycoforms? Nice try.

      “Why not try and expose companies that take people’s money and don’t even give the option of giving it back!”

      Feel free to start your own blog and do this, nothing is stopping you… I suggest you don’t look at the $$$ back but the actual effect of their product on the human body. So far, from what I know, Mannatech promises cures with little real science behind it to support their claims.

      Jon

  • GDW says:

    Just for interest sake. What do you do for a living Jon? Any expertise in the medical field?

    • Jon says:

      If you are unable to read the about page, then I am unable to help you further. Have a nice day… and thanks for trying to muddy the waters, yet again, between science and faith to help further your sales. I find it ironic that you question legit products (of which I admit there are not many) in the hopes of pushing your unproven ones.

      Jon

  • Graham says:

    Hi Jon
    For your info and all the other people that you are misleading by your opinions and not facts about Mannatech I suggest a vist to their website (I am not sure that you allow links) or even to their lab in Coppell Texas! There are now double blind placebo controlled crossover studies proving the efficacy of their products – yet despite this Mannatech cannot make any claims and do not make claims because their products do not have a LDA50 rating (proving that the product is toxic like drugs!) the moneyback guarantee is there to allow people the opportunity to try the products risk free despite toxic opinions like yours. BTW who do you think pays for a double blind study of a drug – the drug company of course!! so why is it a problem for Mannatech to pay for the study of their products??
    Graham

    • Jon says:

      Thanks for your comment Graham. What’s the problem with Mannatech paying to study their own products? There is an absolute conflict of interest. If the lab, staff and patience are all being directly compensated by the company funding the project, the scope of the study and results are dubious at best. There are many companies that do this on behalf of pharmaceuticals – the company gives a lump sum and the trials are conducted blind for all involved until the final tests results are relased, cost isn’t an issue for such a big company. Again, I really hope that what they say is true but so far, I have yet to see anything beyond religious/marketing hype from them.

      Jon

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