Aug
15
2009
0

Interesting Video: Kirk Cameron vs the evil Athiest industry

I don’t honestly care what people believe as long as it does no harm towards others, they don’t try to brainwash others into believing what they do and mutual respect is observed but I found this video rather interesting… sure, there are many out there like this but so far, this is the clearest.

Although believe only in MYSELF, I rather enjoy watching people with different points of view on a topic and seeing their line of reasoning. The way people convince themselves of things, even to the point of absurdity, reveals just how fragile our minds really are to exterior inputs. I think if we believed more in ourselves before allowing others to mold our conscious and unconscious mind, the better civilization would be.

I saw the debate between Kirk and the evil Athiests a little over a year ago, what amused me was his Photoshop pictures and saying “there is no bullfrog” with a picture half bull, half frog. He’s a funny guy who gets the point across but his push is a little too extreme in my opinion as it isn’t needed.

You either believe or you don’t, end of story. Confusing science (based on facts) and religion (based on beliefs) is never a good thing for either side, regardless of the foundations for your decision.

Are Athiests bad? NO. Are Catholics bad? NO. Are Muslims bad? NO. Are (insert movement) bad? NO. What makes people bad are their actions and the excuse used more often than not lie in their belief structures and the segregation that occurs because of them. Why is there hatred between different movements or groups of people? It’s built into us, we are a tribal people, we enjoy people who share the same customs, rituals and beliefs as us and dislike those that don’t. Sure, there are exceptions, but if you look at history… those who weren’t part of the “in crowd” often get the pointy end of a stick for the benefit of those that are.

Written by Jon in: rants |
May
05
2009
4

Mannatech legal threats, I’m not alone!

I decided to do a little research online regarding my (so far), two cease and desist orders originating from Mannatech’s legal department and guess what, they sent the same identical letter to others as well! Each time, to people who disprove or question the validity for their sales people’s claims that their products cure diseases and illness. Same situation, the blogger writes that their products are essentially a scam, a Mannatech representative says the opposite and voila, Mannatech’s legal department springs into action against, no, not the Mannatech representative telling their lies but the person who put into question their products. I am seeing a pattern here.

Background story regarding my joy of Mannatech here:

First question, am I legally liable for comments posted on my blog?

Technically you are not liable for blog comments/forum posts on your site posted by others. You are responsible and liable for comments that you make, but it is very difficult to prosecute or pursue, primarily because of jurisdiction. The Internet is global and there is not one single governing force. Not only is the location of the blogger/poster a factor but the  location of the web host and the laws that govern their locations are a factor.

Source: http://businesscommunicationblog.com/newsletters/?p=43981

Makes sense… I agree :-) Mannatech is barking-up the wrong tree, their threats are as empty as their distributor’s promises.

Where Mannatech learned about Cease and Desist letters…

http://www.rickross.com/reference/mannatech/mannatech49.html

Now I know where the idea for Cease and Desist Orders comes from… the SEC! It seems that the seeds they have sowed all these years are finally starting to sprout weeds!

Mannatech’s SEC problems are on top of a complaint filed by the Texas attorney general’s office last year. In July 2007, the attorney general filed a lawsuit accusing Mannatech of exaggerating the therapeutic benefits of its products for people with cancer, Down syndrome, cystic fibrosis and other serious conditions. That suit is pending in Travis County District Court. Mannatech CEO Wayne Badovinus acknowledged last quarter that dealing with the attorney general’s complaint, as well as related shareholder lawsuits, was taking a financial toll on the company.

This is starting to make sense, they are covering their ass as much as possible with these legal orders as they face an increasing amount of lawsuits based on the practices of their distribution channel.

Deja vue?

Here is a great link to somebody who had exactly the same situation happen to them! Mannatech lawyers go after him instead of commentators working for Mannatech and accuse him of something he never did! I sent his response to Mannatech as well, it’s fantastic! Peter’s response is a very good read – well worth it!

I thought I had made this clear last year when I received a similar complaint from you. I do wish that you would actually take the time to read the page you are complaining about, but just in case you can’t do that I will reiterate what I said last time (and which appears on that page).

At no place on my site do I state, suggest or imply that Mannatech nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease, or state, suggest or imply that Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor’s standard of care. I would not do either of these things because I do not believe that such statements would be true. I do not care what Mannatech’s policies are with regard to such statements because I am not a Mannatech distributor.

Before you write to me again with complaints about things I do not do please try to read my clearly expressed opinions about Mannatech. You only make yourself look foolish by displaying a total lack of comprehension.

Again, I would like to thank you for implicitly informing me that Mannatech products have no role in the prevention, treatment or cure of any disease and that they do not provide an alternative to professional medical care. I will cite this to Mannatech distributors who contact me with anecdotes suggesting otherwise.

As is my usual policy, your email and this reply will be published on my web site.

I have a wish

I wish that Mannatech would spend a few million dollars and perform a clinical, double-blind study relating the the effectiveness of their products… so far, they have a legal department that is unable to comprehend their mother tongue and sales people who must believe their own lies in order to sustain their financial health. I see nothing positive nor progressive coming out of Mannatech. Please perform this completely unbiased study so you can implode.

Here is a fantastic article by ABCNews, Cure for Your Disease or Empty Promises?

The Bottom Line

You reap what you sow.

May
05
2009
0

Mannatech’s Cease and Desist… again!

Apparently Mannatech’s lawyers still do not know how to read English, think that their web compliance policy applies internet-wide and freedom of speech is as worthless as their own products . I wrote repeatedly that Mannatech’s products have never been proven to work but Mannatech’s own sales people write that it cures everything known to man. They go after the guy speaking the truth in order to maintain their web of lies.

I wrote about Mannatech previously here…

Now, let me prove my point, first a little background, this is not me but outlines how Mannatech works.

  • Using the term nutraceutical implies that the product has a demonstrated physiological benefit or provide protection against a chronic disease without having to PROVE nor back-up this statement with fact (in other words, it’s marketing BS). Demonstrated isn’t fact, it’s a very subjective and “blurry” word.
  • Mannatech’s products are sold around the world, they are A BIG COMPANY
  • Mannatech is a MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) company, not a pharmaceutical one
  • Sales people only profit by recruiting others to sell their products, something that sales people selling REAL health products such as drugs wouldn’t be able to do unless they had a license and education to back them up.
  • 90% of the distributors in a MLM scam leave within the first 90 days

Interesting video huh? Here is what happens, one person says something bad about the company

(from fotwunny (1 month ago))

my mother got involved with this crap!…it’s insane…It was all she talked about for about 2 years..she thought she was going to be making 6 figures while doing something good…..she ran herself ragged and made nothing after expenses

… and you guessed it, somebody from Mannatech says that it cures diseases etc.

(from arch571332 (2 weeks ago)
I never got involved in the sales end of mannatech for that very reason, there is no guarantee you will make money, I only used the products. However they do work, taking the glycential tablets took away the headaches and allergies I had, these problems were probably due to vitamin deficiencies. Its evil that the Texas Attorney General has cracked down on mannatech for saying that their vitamin can cure and prevent disease, because they can.

Alright, let’s hear from a Mannatech distributor

  • She has seen the Mannatech fallout after Texas Attorney General and ABC News Interview about how much bullshit Mannatech’s sales people where shoveling in the name of religion in order to sell their products, promising that it would cure AIDS, Cancer and everything else under the sun
  • “The rules have changed, this can happen to any company.” What she doesn’t say is that you cannot make a health claim without backing it up with FACTS which Mannatech hasn’t been able to do. They were also caught red handed lying to sell their products, so yes, if you run a company based on lies, I sure as hell hope that the government cracks down onto you!
  • “Don’t lead with the company, don’t lead with the product, lead with yourself”… so in other words, put your own reputation on the line because Mannatech’s products can’t hold water (Tensa Water no less) on their own, no scientific data, no scientific work, just a MLM scheme that works on ignorance and greed.
  • “People don’t buy companies or the product until they buy you”, I sure hope she doesn’t work for Nike, Fiat or any other company out there. When the company you stand behind has no value and depends on YOUR PERSONAL VALUE for a sale, you know you are in big trouble!
  • I completely tuned-out after 4 minutes of her babble filled with MLM and “get rich quick” keywords

Now, let’s look at the comments

(from flygirlhandm (9 months ago))
“People don’t buy companies… they don’t necessarily even buy the product.. until they buy you”
That is one of the silliest things I have ever heard. Mannatech and those associated with it are very disturbing and seem to be either brain washed or are trying to do the brain washing.
from arel451 (5 months ago)
I’m sorry I tried this product and the end result was there was no result. This is a nice pyramid scheme with sugar pills. Just drink your Kool-Aid and follow like sheep for your placebo.
themoneyzoneuvme (1 year ago)
Juli you are now coming into your light and becoming the person who you are meant to be. If you just watched this video and you need help with your business, Juli is the person who will be there for you. She is a true leader with passion flowing out of her veins. check her out…..
-Devin-
(comment from me)
…I didn’t see any passion, I saw a deer looking into headlights having trouble speaking English that I could understand
Glyconutrients and Breast Cancer

  • The field of glycobiology is a marketing word and field created by Mannatech. It has no roots in science and essentially means the biological study of sugar (nutritionally speaking, carbohydrates), which we all get more than enough of even with a very unhealthy diet.
  • Another word for Saccharides is CARBOHYDRATES, what they are saying is without THEIR carbohydrates, which even on a strict diet is very hard NOT to eat, cells have trouble communicating and cancer develops
  • Mannatech’s carbohydrates pills which, by the way, is identical to every other carbohydrate out there, sugar IS sugar except for the artifical sweetners being sold, help improve the efficiency of cell to cell communication. Where is the study proving that THEIR sugar is better than any other sugar? Don’t hold your breath as it doesn’t exist.
  • What this video is saying is that Mannatech’s sugar pills which are NOT proven to work, have no scientific merit beyond a placebo pill are able to cure cancer. FALSE! Not only that, the video says that if you begin taking the pills after you have cancer, then it will go away. Proven scientifically? Nope, just more lies.
  • They keep using the term “saccharides supplementation” to sound scientific but what they are saying is that THEIR sugar cures cancer, and hell, not just breast cancer but every other cancer known to man.
  • 100% of people taking a placebo developed cancer again while only 7-8% did so taking Mannatech’s Glyconutrients. Glyconutrients is a term created by Mannatech so this is the only company that can sell these things. They don’t make specific reference to Mannatech but as the only source, this is a nice way around the laws governing pharmaceuticals.
  • Notice that no proof is ever given
Here is their Mannatech’s corporate video
Notice how skimpy they are on the facts that their products do anything beyond a placebo pill but time and again, sell “wealth” to potential clients. They are a MLM, not a pharmaceutical company that is normally bound by a huge amount of regulation. The revolutionary technologies they keep talking about? Sugar pills and water. WOW! There is, by the way, no such thing as a “wellness industry”, that’s code for “we can’t prove scientifically that our products work so let’s use emotion instead of logic to sell them”.
——————

5/5/2009

TO: Jonathan

RE: Impermissible Use of Health Claims Attributed to Mannatech Products

http://blog.legendarylife.com/mannatech-strikes-again-with-holy-water/comment-page-1

Dear Jonathan:

This is a final reminder concerning a critical issue about your website which
requires your immediate attention. We have previously asked you to permanently
remove any statements which are or could be construed to be unauthorized health
claims. The statements made on your website are contrary to Mannatech policy.

Demand is hereby made that you immediately remove from your website any
statement or reference which (i) states, suggests or implies that Mannatech
nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease, (ii) states, suggests or
implies that Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor?s
standard of care, and/or (iii) is in any manner in contradiction with
Mannatech?s existing policies and procedures. Demand is further made that you
refrain from engaging in this activity in the future.

If you have not already done so, you have three (3) days from the receipt of
this letter to send the undersigned written confirmation stating such statements
and/or references have been removed from your website and that you will refrain
from engaging in this activity in the future.

This issue is very important to us, and we are sure you understand our
concerns. We are monitoring your website, and failure to fully comply may result
in legal and compliance action up to and including litigation in which Mannatech
will seek injunctive relief, damages, attorney?s fees and costs as allowable
under Texas law. Mannatech will undertake all actions necessary to secure your
compliance.

We thank you for your assistance if you have already complied with this
demand. If you have yet to fully comply, please take advantage of this final
opportunity to comply and avoid further action being taken by Mannatech.

Nothing herein shall be construed as a waiver of any rights Mannatech has at law
or in equity, all of which are expressly reserved.

Your prompt attention and cooperation in this matter are greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,
Mannatech Legal, Ethics & Compliance Department

May
05
2009
0

How to prepare for the flu epidemic

I just watched this and I can’t help but think of zombie movies. If a virulent form of the H1N1 flu strikes, buy lots of ammo and a shovel as the government will stick its head in the sand (protecting itself of course) and everybody else around you will freak-out and die in short order. Societies around the world fall one by one over the course of a year or two as wave after wave goes around the world. Masks don’t work against viruses unless you know how to put one one and take it off properly.

Not a nice picture is it, ah well, time for a trip to the local hardware store, I hear they have a big discount on shovels! Alternatively, you can build a log cabin in the bush and stay there the rest of your life, hoping the duck you eat doesn’t get infected and caught its last breath onto you.

Here is a possible solution to confirm your upcoming bout with mortality… It’s always nice to know ahead of time that you are about to die and there is nothing you can do about it right?

Before you pre-emptively go out there on a binge of population control, there is some hope.

Fell all better? Yes? No? Well, that’s life… it will end one day, it isn’t a choice. Time to live everyday as if it was your last and stop procrastinating!

The Bottom Line

Life is precious, appreciate it!

Mar
16
2009
0

Is reproduction a right or privilege?

This should be the view that irresponsible people bringing life into this world that they cannot hope to support.

This should be the view that irresponsible people bringing life into this world that they cannot hope to support.

Over the past few weeks, a woman on welfare with six children (some disabled) conceived by in-vitro insemination decided it was very wise to have an additional eight from the same process. At the same time, I get petitioned to “help the poor children” (in America of all places).

We shouldn’t exclude ourselves from natural processes

Humans, because of our ability to create a relatively stable environment somehow think we are completely immune from natural processes. They range from evolution (which is still happening by the way) and natural selection (survival of the fittest). There are a host of other ones but these are the two I wish to focus upon.

Evolution and Natural Selection

Evolution is a process by which our genes, like a combination lock, are recalibrated by random chance and environmental influences to be different each time we procreate. Think of the “optimal human” as a key to get into a door, each generation procuded will either be closer to being able to open the door or not, those who are closest, through natural selection, will eventually develop the genetic profile that allows their “key” to open the door. This may happen in one or two generations or thousands, but changes (progress or otherwise) is constant.  Just look around you and you will see both the positive and detrimental results of these recombinations.

Disgraceful woman

Although I deeply respect women, I cannot find anything positive in a woman who is screwing both the social welfare system and seeking fame at the same time by having children that she had no hope of both conceiving naturally and taking care of once reality hit. On one side, you have deeply religious people who say it’s a blessing from God that she had so many kids (I guess God, not the doctor, gave her a prescription for clomid and artificially inseminated her too). On the other side, realists who sacrificed themselves to have kids that they could afford, limiting their family size out of common sense. So, the question must be asked, what should have happened?

My opinion

Let’s recap, a woman who is unable to support one child much less 14, coming from a disfunctional home with no hope in hell of ever becoming anything unless her ovaries were artificially stimulated and uterus impregnated. What I think should happen is two fold. First, she should be given a tent and a hundred dollars along with a bus fare to anywhere she wants in the United States to live-out her life in misery, obscurity and regret. People who cheat the public, social systems and media deserve no less. Second, her children should be separated (though kept in contact) in loving families and her grand parents not allowed any visitation rights. I fail to see how anybody from that family can be a positive role model for these children. If she was in nature, she would be dead along with all her children, there is no way a single mother could ever gather enough fruits and vegetables to provide for such a large family without relying heavily on others. The doctor that inseminated her should have his license revoked and forced to sell everything he has, which is put into a trust fund to take care of the 14 children and provide them with a college education when they get older so this cycle isn’t repeated. I would give the doctor the same as the mother, a hundred bucks and a free bus ticket. The worst thing that can happen is the life lessons of both the mother and grand parents are taught to young children.

Pointing to larger problems

I think this whole situation points to a larger problem, that of education, lack of forethought and reproductive sciences in general. Just because you can have children, does that mean you should? Contraceptive education is a must for all children starting in day care in my opinion but it needs to go further into the area of responsibility. Sex is fun and easy but if you are unable to handle the consequences, not an activity you should partake in. Governments so far have been shy to this except in Europe, which is suffering it’s own problems as well. A young 12 year old boy recently became a father with a 14 year old girl in England… huh? The fact that this happens around the world indicates there is a deep dysfunction in far too many parents out there who are not teaching responsibility but “hey, if you can get others to pay for your mistakes, it’s alright”. This is happening everyday, around the world, people having children they cannot hope to take care of, it’s a multi-generational crisis even larger than the financial one as it affects people lives in an even more tangible way.

I sense an overall sense of depression no matter where I go in the world, I am not depressed but no matter where I go, I see people who have lost all hope of having the life of their dreams and hate what they have become, but that’s a subject for another day.

Reproduction a right or privilege?

So, is having a child a right or privilege? I believe it’s a privilege and absolutely not a right. If you are unable to take care, nurture and live-up to the responsibilities of being a parent, if you have a child, it should be given away to a family that can, with or without your concent. The only right you have is to allow your child to have the optimal living environment, if that isn’t you, the kid is gone. I believe this would solve many problems in our society because it would act as a lesson to others and more importantly, offer a positive living environment for the child to break the cycle of poverty and negative thought that comes from people who shouldn’t be having children in the first place.

The Bottom Line

If you can’t take care of it, don’t have or take it.

Written by Jon in: baby, rants, truth |

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